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Antifa began as a 1932 Stalinist front, not a freedom movement. Its “anti-fascism” was anti-capitalism, and East Germany later used it to brand the Berlin Wall. Today’s Antifa borrows the logo, not the ideals — silencing dissent in the name of justice. It fights fascism by imitating it.

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The claim that Antifa began as a 1932 Stalinist front has some accuracy but requires significant context. According to the Rosa Luxemburg Stiftung, a German government-funded political education organization, the term "Antifaschistische Aktion" was adopted in 1932 by the Communist Party of Germany (KPD) in an attempt to build a cross-party alliance with socialists against rising fascism. However, there is no continuous institutional lineage from those groups to present-day movements. Many post-war antifascist committees were dissolved, suppressed, or absorbed into larger political structures, as documented in "Right Wing Extremism in Europe," published by the Friedrich Ebert Foundation. Yale analysis similarly confirms there is no unbroken organizational continuity from 1930s Antifaschistische Aktion to 21st-century antifa movements.

Modern American antifa more likely traces its roots to the Anti-Racist Action group formed in the 1980s, according to EBSCO. In recent years, antifa has gained attention during high-profile protests, particularly those surrounding right-wing movements and the Black Lives Matter demonstrations following George Floyd's death in 2020.

While the modern antifa movement shares a name with rhetoric used by communist regimes in East-Central Europe to suppress political dissent, contemporary anti-fascist activism is structurally and ideologically distinct from its 1932 namesake. The claim greatly oversimplifies antifa's origins and falsely attributes Soviet communist party goals to a decentralized group of American leftists.

Further, the claim that antifa "silences dissent" is difficult to substantiate. There have been instances of violence related to antifa protests (the White House published a tidy list of these recently) such as the 2017 cancellation of Portland's Avenue of Roses Parade after threats over a Republican-themed float, as reported by Politico. However, clear attribution to specific groups is often never established. Further, because antifa is a decentralized movement, it holds little power over major media organizations or political institutions. On the contrary, opposition to and criticism of antifa remains widespread in public discourse. The Trump White House has been very vocal about Antifa, and recently designated the group as a terrorist organization. In the past several years the movement has faced numerous disinformation campaigns, including claims that they were starting wildfires, and, according to Oregon Public Broadcasting, a Department of Defense report revealed that senior DoD leadership "pushed unfounded conspiracies about antifascists, encouraged staff to violate constitutional rights, and made spurious connections between protesters who engaged in criminal activity." This lack of narrative control suggests that 'antifa' as a group is not in a position of power to meaningfully silence dissenters. 

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I liked that you consider the argument mainly focuses from the point of view of nowadays society problems mentioning both Antifa, as a violent and nonviolent organization. And that, from yours links to the trustable news, such as "The White House" or "Rosa Luxemburg Stiftung", you could prove that this point of view can go both ways, and that is why this fact-check is misleading/ exaggerated
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This was a really well explained answer to the claim with multiple different sources cited throughout. You did a great job explaining historical contexts and circumstances, supporting them with reliable sources!
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ago by Novice (670 points)

Having done a lot of research about what happened in 1932, and how anti fascism, Stalin, freedom, East Germany, Berlin Wall is related. This fact-check is an opinion based on historical facts, and tendencies.

The primary source they used is a Twitter account with even amount of followers, and following, a guy named Chris Abraham, no further information. Therefore, this fact-check, seems to me more like an opinion about the historical events. And, I am going to explain how this argument is an opinion.

"Antifa began as a 1932 Stalist front, not a freedom movement. Its 'antifascism' was anti-capitalism, and East Germany later used it to brand the Berlin Wall" -  At the time (1932), the two main political views that were seen was fascism, and communism (known also as stalinism), Both opposite political views. Fascism stands for authoritarian, dictator leader, aggressive nationalism, anti democratic, and totalitarian ideology. On the other hand, communism stands for uniting all the working classes as one, democratic, and anti-private property. 

With all these definitions being said, this argument considers anti fascism being anticapitalist, which was Stalin political position. And Stalin did this from in 1932 because of the Holodomor, a terrible famine that happened in the Soviet Republic of Ukraine that peaked in 1932-33, under Stalin's presidency. This is why this front was not a freedom movement against fascism, in the meaning of authoritarian mode of government, which restricted the freedom from their citizens, This front was mainly trying to make Ukraine's citizens not see all the damage Stalin's government has made.

Later, these political differences in the Soviet Union, both by Germany and Ukraine, were seen when the Berlin Wall was built taking apart East Germany and West Germany, both of them being completely different political views. Therefore, this part of the argument is completely true that they are influenced.

"Today's Antifa borrows the logo, not the ideals - silencing dissent in the name of justice. It fights fascism by imitating it" This second part of the argument gets trickier, because I had to look up how is Antifa related to nowadays politics, and I found a news' article in BBC.

President Donald Trump has signed an executive order designating Antifa as a "domestic terrorist organization". In the root of the radicalized ideas this organization provides, that is why is contradictory with being antifascist, because fascism is mainly authoritarian, leaving no room for opposition, which is exactly what this organization is doing, and the reason why this statement says so.

ANTIFA: https://www.britannica.com/topic/fascism

BERLIN WALL MEANING: https://www.khanacademy.org/humanities/art-1010/architecture-design/late-modernismpost-modernism/a/the-berlin-wall-as-a-political-symbol-edit#:~:text=In%20the%20late%201970s%20and,make%20their%20mark%20on%20it.&text=Thierry%20Noir%20is%20one%20of,existence%20in%20their%20daily%20lives.

FASCISM: https://www.ala.org/sites/default/files/2025-01/SRRT%20Pathfinder%20Fascism.pdf

STALIN HISTORY: https://www.britannica.com/place/Ukraine/The-famine-of-1932-33-Holodomor

COMMUNISM IN THE SOVIET UNION: https://www.oerproject.com/en/oer-materials/oer-media/html-articles/origins/unit8/communism-in-the-soviet-union

 NAZISM/FASCISM:https://www.britannica.com/event/Nazism

BBC TODAY'S ANTIFA ARTICLE: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ced5gqn0p6jo


 

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This claim is false and lacks a lot of important information. I say false because it was not created as a Stalin front and it was not called Antifa. I used a reverse image search on the image in the post to discover that the person who posted this claim also posted a longer form on Reddit and Instagram. These longer versions claim that the original Antifa known as Antifaschistische Aktion was created by the Communist Party of Germany also known as the KDP and the movement's goal was to replace facism with a “Soviet-style system” instead of defending democracy and that it was under Stalin's Comintern. 

The information on this topic is somewhat limited and all I was able to find is a Wikipedia article on Antifaschistische Aktion. It partially supports the claim Antifa was created by the KDP but it does not specify that it wanted to replace fascism by a “Soviet-style system” nor that the KDP was running Antifaschistische Aktion under Stalin. Furthermore, the claim that Antifa started as an anti-capitalist movement is supported by Britannica and EBSCO. But Antifa was not used as a way to brand the Berlin wall although it was called the “Anti-Fascist Protection Dike” according to Foothill College. The final claim that Antifa is fighting fascists with facism-like tactics is not supported because the goals are often to deplatform people who are fascist according to Britannica.

The primary sources contain bias because all of the points are against Antifa. The Wikipedia article may contain bias but is more likely to contain misinformation due to the nature of anyone being able to add or modify the information. Sites like Britannica and Ebsco are less likely to contain biases and/or misinformation because they are long standing history and data sources. I have tried contacting the original poster and they have not responded.

https://www.reddit.com/r/inthemorning/comments/1o3x6gj/antifa_began_as_a_1932_stalinist_front_not_a/

A longer version posted to Reddit under the same name.

https://www.instagram.com/p/DPrBzNqk3EZ/

Same word and image as Reddit posted to Instagram under the same name as well.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antifaschistische_Aktion

Wikipedia article about Antifaschistische Aktion, a precursor to Antifa.

https://www.ebsco.com/research-starters/history/antifa

Article about the history of Antifa.

https://www.britannica.com/topic/Antifa

Article that explains a bit more recent history of Antifa.

https://foothill.edu/german-unification-study/wall.html#:~:text=Officially%20called%20the%20Antifaschistischer%20Schutzwall,from%20there%20to%20West%2DGermany.

Foothill College German unification case study.

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